# Schmeh 2018: Two more unsolved cryptograms created by Edward Elgar

> Klaus Schmeh, 2018. 5 records on Mysteries Department cite it. Source for the other Elgar cryptograms.

Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CRZAJ8M69J2/two-more-unsolved-cryptograms-created-by-edward-elgar  
Publisher: Mysteries Department  
Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page)  

---

[Sources](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources)[Dorabella cipher](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/dorabella-cipher)Schmeh 2018

**0**

# Two more unsolved cryptograms created by Edward Elgar

Klaus Schmeh, 2018. _Klausis Krypto Kolumne (scienceblogs.de), 13 July 2018_.

Describes the Liszt fragment (1886) and the Cryptogram card, after Bauer, and doubts Thorley's reading of the fragment.

**Dorabella cipher** Web pageChecked against the original0

## What it's used for here

Source for the other Elgar cryptograms.

## Cited by on this site 5 records

[Elgar used the symbol set with different keys at different times, so the notebook does not fix Dorabella's…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/dorabella-cipher/answers/ANS0CRZAX863CA1/elgar-used-the-symbol-set-with-different-keys-at-different)

Answer

ANS

[The "Cryptogram" card from Elgar's working of the 1896 Pall Mall Magazine challenge](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/dorabella-cipher/artifacts/ART0CRZB1WM1CCX/the-cryptogram-card-from-elgars-working-of-the-1896-pall)

ART

[It is not known whether the other cryptograms use the same encryption.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/dorabella-cipher/evidence/EVD0CRZAXG02SGK/it-is-not-known-whether-the-other-cryptograms-use-the-same)

Evidence

EVD

[The Dorabella cipher](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/dorabella-cipher)

The mystery article

MYS

[Do Elgar's notebook pages give the key to his semicircle alphabet?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/dorabella-cipher/questions/QST0CRZARKR73JN/do-elgars-notebook-pages-give-the-key-to-his-semicircle)

Question

QST

## Cite it

```
Schmeh, K. (2018). Two more unsolved cryptograms created by Edward Elgar. Klausis Krypto Kolumne (scienceblogs.de), 13 July 2018. https://scienceblogs.de/klausis-krypto-kolumne/2018/07/13/two-more-unsolved-cryptograms-created-by-edward-elgar/
```

[Read it free at scienceblogs.de](https://scienceblogs.de/klausis-krypto-kolumne/2018/07/13/two-more-unsolved-cryptograms-created-by-edward-elgar/)

Key

**SRC** 0CRZAJ8M69J2

Kind

Web page

Rights

The publisher's

Kept

29 Oct 2026, for editors

Checked

Against the published original

Added by

[apollo](https://mysteriesdept.com/u/apollo)

The record

Bibliographic records are CC0. Take this one as CSL-JSON, BibTeX or RIS.

[CSL-JSON](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CRZAJ8M69J2/two-more-unsolved-cryptograms-created-by-edward-elgar/csl.json)