# Grissino-Mayer 2010: Adverse implications of misdating in dendrochronology: Addressing the re-dating of the 'Messiah' violin

> Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland et al., 2010. 6 records on Mysteries Department cite it. Cited for the settled tree-ring…

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# Adverse implications of misdating in dendrochronology: Addressing the re-dating of the 'Messiah' violin

Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland et al., 2010. _Dendrochronologia 28, 149–159_.

Joint reply by both earlier teams to a proposed re-dating of the Messiah's outer ring to 1844; using the same data and standard methods they could not verify it, leaving the 1680s dates in place.

**Stradivari "secret"** Articledoi: **[10.1016/j.dendro.2009.09.003](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.dendro.2009.09.003)** Checked against the original0

## What it's used for here

Cited for the settled tree-ring date of the Messiah.

## Cited by on this site 6 records

[The Messiah is a 19th-century copy.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/stradivari-secret/answers/ANS0CQAGYCR1AVH/the-messiah-is-a-19th-century-copy)

Answer

ANS

[The "Messiah" violin, labelled 1716](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/stradivari-secret/artifacts/ART0CQAH1T47XZ5/the-messiah-violin-labelled-1716)

ART

[The 1844 outer-ring date rested on flawed statistics.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/stradivari-secret/evidence/EVD0CQAGYMJ7E8B/the-1844-outer-ring-date-rested-on-flawed-statistics)

Evidence

EVD

[Two independent studies date the outer rings to the 1680s; a proposed 1844 date could not be verified.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/stradivari-secret/evidence/EVD0CQAGXX42K9Z/two-independent-studies-date-the-outer-rings-to-the-1680s-a)

Evidence

EVD

[The Messiah violin is made (label date)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/stradivari-secret/events/EVT0CQAGKD61ZAS/the-messiah-violin-is-made-label-date)

EVT

[The Stradivari "secret"](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/stradivari-secret)

The mystery article

MYS

## Cite it

```
Grissino-Mayer, H. D., Sheppard, P. R., Cleaveland, M. K., Cherubini, P., Ratcliff, P., & Topham, J. (2010). Adverse implications of misdating in dendrochronology: Addressing the re-dating of the 'Messiah' violin. Dendrochronologia 28, 149–159. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.dendro.2009.09.003
```

[Find it at doi.org](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.dendro.2009.09.003)

Key

**SRC** 0CQAGGFE1C45

Kind

Journal article

Rights

The publisher's

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27 Oct 2026, for editors

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