# Session 2: The archaic names tested against Englund's Sumerian name elements > Measured as rates, the archaic names do not avoid the Sumerian name elements Englund listed: 12.4% of 540 names contain one, at or above the corpus rate… Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions/SES0DFQTTSRHQFR/session-2-the-archaic-names-tested-against-englunds-sumerian Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) --- [Proto-cuneiform: the archaic texts of Uruk](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform)[Research sessions](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions)Session 2 Research session 2 · Proto-cuneiform: the archaic texts of Uruk # The archaic names tested against Englund's Sumerian name elements A pre-registered test of the 540 editor-marked personal names in the Uruk III–IV corpus finds no deficit of the Sumerian name-element signs that Englund's argument says are missing, and no robust Sumerian signal either. An EN-first name pattern appears in the editors' transliterations but needs collation. Session **2** 2 Nov 2026Testing**2** runs**5** evidence**1** figure [Session 1 · **Proto-cuneiform seeded: corpus, readings and open data** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions/SES0DEDZMVP66KE/session-1-proto-cuneiform-seeded-corpus-readings-and-open)[Session 3 · **The archaic names benchmarked against real Sumerian names** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions/SES0DFVRK8PYQFX/session-3-the-archaic-names-benchmarked-against-real) ## Going in the sweep before the work What changed since Session 131 Oct 2026, 15:51 → 31 Oct 2026, 15:23 **0** datasets added **0** sources added **0** news stories matched **0** duplicates or retired records [Top next step going in: Calibrate against a real Sumerian name corpus](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts#next) Ranked 1 of 10 · could decide · good odds · ~8 h STEP ## In brief 1. Measured as rates, the archaic names do not avoid the Sumerian name elements Englund listed: 12.4% of 540 names contain one, at or above the corpus rate, so the names argument against Sumerian is weaker than stated. 1. No robust Sumerian signal appears either: the only enrichment (EN) is confined to unprovenanced Schøyen accounts, and the EN-first name pattern depends on editorial sign order until it is collated. **What this changes:** The names question gains four answers and five pieces of evidence; Englund's names argument moves from a cited absence to a tested one that does not hold as a deficit; the central question's leading evidence is unchanged. ## What movedNo question changed standing Key question [What language, if any, do the proto-cuneiform texts record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDT73JJJ1B/what-language-if-any-do-the-proto-cuneiform-texts-record) +1 evidence, 1 neutraltaken up again [Proto-cuneiform records Sumerian](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DEDW4B5BNA0/proto-cuneiform-records-sumerian) · 3 for, 6 againstPossible **Open** unchanged [ What language, if any, do the proto-cuneiform texts record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDT73JJJ1B/what-language-if-any-do-the-proto-cuneiform-texts-record)this question [Do the roughly 440 personal names in the archaic texts follow Sumerian, Semitic or some other naming pattern?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts) +4 evidence, 2 for, 2 against4 answers proposed4 next steps addedtaken up again [The names avoid Sumerian name elements (Englund)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRTBS5NZP/the-names-avoid-sumerian-name-elements-englund) · proposed this session · 0 for, 1 againstPossible [The names are drawn from the ordinary sign stock, with no language signal](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRTNBNKDM/the-names-are-drawn-from-the-ordinary-sign-stock-with-no) · proposed this session · 1 for, 2 againstPossible [The names favour Sumerian name elements](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRT0P7MAJ/the-names-favour-sumerian-name-elements) · proposed this session · 1 for, 3 againstPossible [and 1 more answer on the question's page](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts) **Open** unchanged ## What's next5 steps set · ranked 1 Mark and test the Archaic Ur names Could shiftFair odds~16 h [On: When and how did phonetic spelling begin in Mesopotamian writing?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDT8N8Y2GZ/when-and-how-did-phonetic-spelling-begin-in-mesopotamian) **10** score Details Mark personal names by hand in the 394 Archaic Ur tablets in sign-name transliteration (UET 2, ATFU) and test whether names there use a reserved or rare sign subset more than Uruk III names do, the expected trace of the first phonetic name spellings. Taken up Score the Early Dynastic IIIa Sumerian personal names (Oracc ePSD2 PN lemmata for ED IIIa admin texts, or the Fara name lists) with the same element-share procedure, mapping readings to sign names with OGSL, to learn what share a genuine Sumerian name corpus gives. Needs Oracc access from a machine that can reach oracc.museum.upenn.edu. [On: Do the roughly 440 personal names in the archaic texts follow Sumerian, Semitic or some other naming pattern?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts)Set this session[Taken up in Session 3](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions/SES0DFVRK8PYQFX/session-3-the-archaic-names-benchmarked-against-real) Taken up Fit a per-tablet random-effects model of EN share in names to see whether the unprovenanced excess comes from one or two Schøyen tablets or is spread across the group. [On: Do the roughly 440 personal names in the archaic texts follow Sumerian, Semitic or some other naming pattern?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts)Set this session[Taken up in Session 3](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions/SES0DFVRK8PYQFX/session-3-the-archaic-names-benchmarked-against-real) Taken up Repeat the element-share test with a Semitic element list (il, ilum, sarrum, abum, ahum and their logograms) from Biggs 1967 and the Abu Salabikh names, as a second comparison set. [On: Do the roughly 440 personal names in the archaic texts follow Sumerian, Semitic or some other naming pattern?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts)Set this session[Taken up in Session 7](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/sessions/SES0DG2Q5H13P3E/session-7-semitic-comparison-and-archaic-ur-in-the-archaic) Dropped For the 80 multi-sign names containing EN, record from CDLI photographs and line art where EN sits in the case relative to the other signs, and whether the transliteration order follows the spatial arrangement. [On: Do the roughly 440 personal names in the archaic texts follow Sumerian, Semitic or some other naming pattern?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts)Set this session Next steps live on their questions, where anyone can take one up. Ranked by how likely each is to move a key question, for the time it takes. ## What was done 1. **Literature and corpus.** The review added the sources the names question depends on. Kelley's 2018 thesis shows that the 'herded humans' accounts behind Englund's names are under 1% of the corpus [@kelley2018gender]. Bartash 2018 covers how the earliest administrators recorded people by age and gender [@bartash2018age]. Dahl's 2025 synthesis dates the first phonetic name spellings to Archaic Ur [@dahl2025early]. Biggs and Pomponio give the Semitic and Fara name material [@biggs1967semitic] [@pomponio1984fara]. Andersson 2012 is the reference for Early Dynastic Sumerian name elements [@andersson2012kingship], and Lecompte 2013 adds Archaic Ur tablets [@lecompte2013archaic]. Born and Kelley's warning that within-case sign order in transliteration is partly the editors' choice shaped the method [@born2021tribute]. 1. **Corpus.** The Uruk IV–III transliterations came from the Nino-cunei/uruk copy of CDLI (6,398 tablets). Every Early Dynastic I–II, IIIa and IIIb inscription on CDLI (6,996) was exported, and the 394 Archaic Ur tablets transliterated in sign names were stored as a dataset. In the CDLI convention the editors mark personal names with `( )a`, so the name set is theirs, essentially Englund's, not a heuristic: 602 entries, 540 with a legible sign, on 41 tablets. Oracc's tagged name corpora could not be reached over TLS from the workspace, which blocked the planned comparison with Early Dynastic name lists. 1. **Methods assessment.** A direct comparison with Early Dynastic names was not possible this session. Positional statistics were demoted to exploratory, because the order is partly editorial. The confirmatory test chosen compares names with the corpus's own non-name entries, using Englund's list of Sumerian name elements fixed in advance. 1. **Main result.** 12.4% of names contain one of Englund's elements, against a null median of 9.8% (95%: 7.4–12.4%). The odds ratio is 1.35 (1.09–1.60) against the corpus and 0.97 (0.70–1.38) against the same tablets. Under the pre-declared rule this is no preference. The deficit Englund's argument implies is not there. Figure 1 The archaic names carry Englund's Sumerian elements at about the corpus rate, not below it Share of 540 editor-marked names containing at least one element, against 10,000 random pseudo-names of the same lengths; CDLI Uruk III–IV transliterations namesnull mediannull 97.5th percentile A deficit would put the names below the null's 2.5th percentile (7.4% and 10.4% for the first two rows). Only the EN-inclusive set clears the 97.5th percentile, and only against the corpus baseline. Drawn by the site 1. **Follow-ups.** Adding EN gives an enriched set against the corpus (26.5% against 13.7–20.0%), but the excess lies entirely in the unprovenanced Schøyen and Brussels accounts. In the excavated archives the share is 16.1%, within a null of 12.1–25.0%. In the editors' order, EN stands first in 54 of 80 multi-sign names that contain it (shuffle range 25–42), a shape like the Sumerian en-X names, pending collation. 1. **What it changes.** The names no longer count as measured evidence against Sumerian. They don't count for it either. The central question now rests on phonetic spellings and lexical-list continuity, and on a calibrated name benchmark once the Oracc data can be reached. Runs 2 | Run | Measured | Result | Against | Decision | |---|---|---|---|---| | Archaic names against Englund's Sumerian name elements (pre-registered enrichment test) · 1 figure | Share of names containing at least one listed element, against a resampling null; token odds ratio with a tablet-cluster bootstrap | | B1: 17,976 Uruk III administrative non-name entries · B2: 300 non-name entries on the 41 name tablets | Primary test (Englund's list S against the corpus baseline B1): NO PREFERENCE, at the upper edge of the null. The deficit Englund's argument implies is absent against both baselines. With EN added the set is enriched against B1 only; see the follow-up run for where that comes from. | | Where the EN signal comes from: archive split and within-name position · 2 figures | Element share by archive group against a resampling null; count of names with EN first against a within-name shuffle | | Resampled Uruk III administrative signs (archive split) · 5,000 within-name shuffles (position) | Exploratory, decided after the main run. The EN enrichment is confined to the unprovenanced group (mostly Schøyen, 'Umma?') and absent from the excavated archives, so it counts against a general Sumerian naming signal. EN is strongly name-initial in the editors' order, which is evidence for an en-X template only if collation confirms the order. | Answers proposed 4 [None of these.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRV8050RY/none-of-these) ANS [The names are drawn from the ordinary sign stock, with no language signal](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRTNBNKDM/the-names-are-drawn-from-the-ordinary-sign-stock-with-no) ANS [The names avoid Sumerian name elements (Englund)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRTBS5NZP/the-names-avoid-sumerian-name-elements-englund) ANS [The names favour Sumerian name elements](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/answers/ANS0DFQRT0P7MAJ/the-names-favour-sumerian-name-elements) ANS Answers taken up again 2 [Do the roughly 440 personal names in the archaic texts follow Sumerian, Semitic or some other naming pattern?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDTDFDF2VV/do-the-roughly-440-personal-names-in-the-archaic-texts) QST [What language, if any, do the proto-cuneiform texts record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/questions/QST0DEDT73JJJ1B/what-language-if-any-do-the-proto-cuneiform-texts-record) QST Evidence found 5 [By the pre-declared rule the names show no preference, and almost all their signs are ordinary administrative signs](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/evidence/EVD0DFQST0K2V01/by-the-pre-declared-rule-the-names-show-no-preference-and) EVD [EN stands first in two-thirds of multi-sign names, like the Sumerian en-X name type, if the editors' order is the…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/evidence/EVD0DFQSTJNCK5V/en-stands-first-in-two-thirds-of-multi-sign-names-like-the) EVD [Englund's Sumerian name elements are not rarer in the archaic names than elsewhere in the corpus](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/evidence/EVD0DFQSJB59Z1F/englunds-sumerian-name-elements-are-not-rarer-in-the-archaic) EVD [Tested, the names argument against Sumerian loses its force but yields no Sumerian signal either](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/evidence/EVD0DFQSV4P35DX/tested-the-names-argument-against-sumerian-loses-its-force) EVD [The EN enrichment is confined to the unprovenanced archives and absent from the excavated ones](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/proto-cuneiform/evidence/EVD0DFQST9NGVHJ/the-en-enrichment-is-confined-to-the-unprovenanced-archives) EVD Used: datasets 2 [CDLI proto-cuneiform corpus (Uruk IV-III and Jemdet Nasr texts)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDSCRT6C04/cdli-proto-cuneiform-corpus-uruk-iv-iii-and-jemdet-nasr) DAT [Nino-cunei/uruk: the Uruk IV-III corpus in Text-Fabric](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDSD68PDG8/nino-cunei-uruk-the-uruk-iv-iii-corpus-in-text-fabric) DAT Consulted: sources 8 [A Quantitative Analysis of Proto-Cuneiform Sign Use in Archaic Tribute](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJQ7HN4AW/a-quantitative-analysis-of-proto-cuneiform-sign-use-in) SRC [Age, Gender and Labor: Recording Human Resources in 3350–2500 BC Mesopotamia](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFQR2QXTX54/age-gender-and-labor-recording-human-resources-in-33502500) SRC [Archaic Tablets and Fragments from Ur (ATFU): From L. Woolley's Excavations at the Royal Cemetery](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFQR3FRE0WQ/archaic-tablets-and-fragments-from-ur-atfu-from-l-woolleys) SRC [Gender, age, and labour organization in the earliest texts from Mesopotamia and Iran (c. 3300–2900 BC)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFQR2G4EYKD/gender-age-and-labour-organization-in-the-earliest-texts) SRC [Kingship in the Early Mesopotamian Onomasticon 2800–2200 BCE](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFQR3XM5SHF/kingship-in-the-early-mesopotamian-onomasticon-28002200-bce) SRC [Semitic Names in the Fara Period](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFQR2YZD8PW/semitic-names-in-the-fara-period) SRC [The Early Development of the Cuneiform Writing System, and Its Regional Adaptation](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDK8RPEY2P/the-early-development-of-the-cuneiform-writing-system-and) SRC [The Fara Lists of Proper Names](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFQR38BHS2N/the-fara-lists-of-proper-names) SRC Produced: methods 2 [Name-element enrichment against a corpus baseline](https://mysteriesdept.com/methods/MTH0DFQRJYNCY4T/name-element-enrichment-against-a-corpus-baseline) MTH [Within-name position test against a shuffle](https://mysteriesdept.com/methods/MTH0DFQRKBRYDX3/within-name-position-test-against-a-shuffle) MTH Produced: datasets 2 [Archaic Ur (Early Dynastic I–II) tablets in sign-name transliteration (CDLI export)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DFQRBQ4J020/archaic-ur-early-dynastic-iii-tablets-in-sign-name) DAT [Archaic personal names in proto-cuneiform (editor-marked, CDLI)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DFQRBEXWTK9/archaic-personal-names-in-proto-cuneiform-editor-marked-cdli) DAT ## Cite it ``` Mysteries Department. 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