# Is the Phaistos Disc a genuine Middle Minoan object? · Phaistos Disc > Three answers have been proposed. The disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it. leads, with evidence 4 for… Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/phaistos-disc/questions/QST0D1GG5YP04VA/is-the-phaistos-disc-a-genuine-middle-minoan-object Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) Updated: 2026-10-26T11:58:25+00:00 --- **0** # Is the Phaistos Disc a genuine Middle Minoan object? Asked 26 Oct 2026 by [**apollo** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/u/apollo)·3 answers·0·0 following **Most likely: the disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it** Ahead on the evidence, not yet confirmed. It needs two reviews to be accepted. ## Where it stands Three answers have been proposed. The disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it. leads, with evidence 4 for: supported by its tests. Two are still possible. ## Why it matters If the disc is a 1908 forgery, every question about its script and language is void. The claim was made in print in 2008 and has been answered on archaeological grounds but not by a physical test⁠[[1]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG0JT7VVV/the-phaistos-disk-a-one-hundred-year-old-hoax)⁠[[2]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG12E2VVK/notes-on-the-authenticity-of-the-phaistos-disk). ## Answers 3 [**The disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/phaistos-disc/answers/ANS0D1GG6XY4CH1/the-disc-is-a-minoan-object-of-about-1750-bc-found-where) Supported by its tests Evidence: 4 for Most likely [**None of these.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/phaistos-disc/answers/ANS0D1GG9485K2V/none-of-these) Not tested enough to call either way Evidence: none yet Still possible [**The disc was made in or shortly before 1908 and planted, by Pernier or with his knowledge.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/phaistos-disc/answers/ANS0D1GG8507JTW/the-disc-was-made-in-or-shortly-before-1908-and-planted-by) Failed a test; not refuted outright Evidence: 2 for, 1 against Disputed ## History 1. 2008[Eisenberg puts forward: the disc was made in or shortly before 1908 and planted, by Pernier or with his knowledge.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG0JT7VVV/the-phaistos-disk-a-one-hundred-year-old-hoax) 1. 2008[Eisenberg: the disc is unique, its signs are stamped rather than incised, and some signs resemble motifs from other…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG0JT7VVV/the-phaistos-disk-a-one-hundred-year-old-hoax)For: The disc was made in or shortly before 1908 and planted, by Pernier or with his knowledge. 1. 2008[Eisenberg: the authorities have not permitted a thermoluminescence test, so the physical question is open.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG0TM3MEE/the-phaistos-disk-a-100-year-old-hoax-addenda-corrigenda-and)For: The disc was made in or shortly before 1908 and planted, by Pernier or with his knowledge. 1. 2009[Hnila: sign 21 recurs on a sealing from Phaistos excavated in a secure context in 1955.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG12E2VVK/notes-on-the-authenticity-of-the-phaistos-disk)For: The disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it. 1. 2009[La Rosa: pernier's daybooks and the circumstances of the season are consistent with a genuine find.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GG1A87CD3/il-disco-di-festos-un-centenario-autentico)For: The disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it. 1. 2021[Baldacci puts forward: the disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GFZ3Y0Q5E/the-phaistos-disk-an-enigmatic-artifact-in-its-cultural) 1. 2021[Baldacci: six disc signs have parallels in impressed fine ware from Phaistos excavated between 1950 and 1966.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GFZ3Y0Q5E/the-phaistos-disk-an-enigmatic-artifact-in-its-cultural)For: The disc is a Minoan object of about 1750 BC found where Pernier said he found it. 1. 2021[Baldacci: signs 21 and others recur on Phaistian material excavated between 1950 and 1966, which a 1908 forger could…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GFZ3Y0Q5E/the-phaistos-disk-an-enigmatic-artifact-in-its-cultural)Against: The disc was made in or shortly before 1908 and planted, by Pernier or with his knowledge. 1. 26 Oct 2026Asked on this site ## Discussion 0 [Add to the discussion](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/phaistos-disc/questions/QST0D1GG5YP04VA/is-the-phaistos-disc-a-genuine-middle-minoan-object%23discussion) Help with this question [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ] [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/phaistos-disc/questions/QST0D1GG5YP04VA/is-the-phaistos-disc-a-genuine-middle-minoan-object%23add-answer) [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ] [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/phaistos-disc/questions/QST0D1GG5YP04VA/is-the-phaistos-disc-a-genuine-middle-minoan-object%23add-evidence) [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ] [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/phaistos-disc/questions/QST0D1GG5YP04VA/is-the-phaistos-disc-a-genuine-middle-minoan-object%23add-question) [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ] [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/phaistos-disc/questions/QST0D1GG5YP04VA/is-the-phaistos-disc-a-genuine-middle-minoan-object%23add-source) Where it fits Phaistos Disc **Is the Phaistos Disc a genuine Middle Minoan object?** Key question · you're here [ Ask a question under this one ]