# No witness describes wingbeats or turns

> Every interview describes a rigid round or cup-shaped object on a steady straight course; the 'bird' remark was attributed to the girlfriend by Casella…

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[Incident 88: the Hackensack disc, 3 August 1947](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/incident-88)Evidence

Evidence · Incident 88: the Hackensack disc, 3 August 1947

# No witness describes wingbeats or turns

Every interview describes a rigid round or cup-shaped object on a steady straight course; the 'bird' remark was attributed to the girlfriend by Casella and she did not recall making it.

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## What it means

Key question[What did the three witnesses see over Hackensack on the evening of 3 August 1947?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/incident-88/questions/QST0DFY739G80E5/what-did-the-three-witnesses-see-over-hackensack-on-the)

3 answers, none ahead yet

**Open** unchanged

Answer this evidence bears on[A bird lit by the low sun](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/incident-88/answers/ANS0DFY7GGKX0DA/a-bird-lit-by-the-low-sun)

Counts againstnone for, 1 against

**Still possible** was No evidence yet

What it implies
1.

A bird is unlikely.For the key question: What did the three witnesses see over Hackensack on the evening of 3 August 1947?

## Next steps 2

1

Read The Bergen Evening Record for 4-5 August 1947

Adds evidenceFair odds~2 h

[On: What did the three witnesses see over Hackensack on the evening of 3 August 1947?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/incident-88/questions/QST0DFY739G80E5/what-did-the-three-witnesses-see-over-hackensack-on-the)

**15** score

Details

Look for the police report, other callers, or a balloon release that evening (a fair, party or advertising balloons).

2

Bergen Evening Record, 4-5 Aug 1947

Adds evidenceFair odds~2 h

[On: What did the three witnesses see over Hackensack on the evening of 3 August 1947?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/incident-88/questions/QST0DFY739G80E5/what-did-the-three-witnesses-see-over-hackensack-on-the)

**15** score

Details

Read the Hackensack paper for the police report, other callers or a balloon release that evening.

Ranked by how likely each is to move the key question, for the time it takes

## Sources 1

[SAC Newark to Director, FBI: Flying disc reported at Hackensack, New Jersey, August 3, 1947 – Miscellaneous (FBI file 62-HQ-83894, Section 2)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DFY3NXV9HJ2/sac-newark-to-director-fbi-flying-disc-reported-at)

Federal Bureau of Investigation 1947

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## Cite it

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Mysteries Department. (2026). No witness describes wingbeats or turns [Evidence EVD0DFY8YETJ2W7]. https://mysteriesdept.com/r/EVD0DFY8YETJ2W7
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[Session 1](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/incident-88/sessions/SES0DFY9WVPW4NG/session-1-incident-88-opened-the-three-files-untangled-and) · 3 Nov 2026

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