# Who wrote the treatise in PHerc. 1667? · Herculaneum Papyri and the Vesuvius Challenge > Four answers have been proposed. The treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school. leads, with… Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367W7E3GZG/who-wrote-the-treatise-in-pherc-1667 Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) Updated: 2026-10-26T11:57:36+00:00 --- **0** # Who wrote the treatise in PHerc. 1667? Asked 26 Oct 2026 by [**apollo** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/u/apollo)·Part of [What do the still-sealed rolls contain?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367VZM0NNS/what-do-the-still-sealed-rolls-contain)·4 answers·0·0 following **Most likely: the treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school** Ahead on the evidence, not yet confirmed. It needs two reviews to be accepted. ## Where it stands Four answers have been proposed. The treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school. leads, with evidence 1 for: partly supported by its tests. Three are still possible. ## Why it matters PHerc. 1667 is the first roll read in full, but its title is lost with the upper part of the roll, so its author must be argued from content⁠[[1]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367HFP2ZBK/complete-virtual-unwrapping-and-reading-of-a-rolled). ## Answers 4 [**The treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/answers/ANS0D3683SM47FF/the-treatise-is-by-another-stoic-of-the-late-third-or-second) Partly supported by its tests Evidence: 1 for Most likely [**None of these.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/answers/ANS0D3684RW1KWY/none-of-these) Not tested enough to call either way Evidence: none yet Still possible [**The treatise is an Epicurean work, perhaps by Philodemus, that discusses Stoic views and names Stoics in…** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/answers/ANS0D3684983BEF/the-treatise-is-an-epicurean-work-perhaps-by-philodemus-that) Not tested enough to call either way Evidence: 1 for Still possible [**The treatise is by Chrysippus.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/answers/ANS0D3683264EC6/the-treatise-is-by-chrysippus) Not tested enough to call either way Evidence: 1 for, 1 against Still possible ## History 1. 2005[Sider: the library's opened rolls include Philodemus's works that discuss and criticise other schools.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367MDE7175/the-library-of-the-villa-dei-papiri-at-herculaneum)For: The treatise is an Epicurean work, perhaps by Philodemus, that discusses Stoic views and names Stoics in… 1. 2026[ScienceBlog puts forward: the treatise is by Chrysippus.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367M5M188E/eighteenth-century-scholars-destroyed-hundreds-of) 1. 2026[Angelotti et al. puts forward: the treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367HFP2ZBK/complete-virtual-unwrapping-and-reading-of-a-rolled) 1. 2026[Angelotti et al.: the editors date the copy to the second century BC and do not name an author.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367HFP2ZBK/complete-virtual-unwrapping-and-reading-of-a-rolled)Against: The treatise is by Chrysippus. 1. 2026[Angelotti et al.: the mention of Aristocreon, Chrysippus's nephew and pupil, ties the text to his circle.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367HFP2ZBK/complete-virtual-unwrapping-and-reading-of-a-rolled)For: The treatise is by Chrysippus. 1. 2026[Angelotti et al.: lexical and conceptual features, and the Aristocreon reference, point to a Stoic context dated around the end…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D367HFP2ZBK/complete-virtual-unwrapping-and-reading-of-a-rolled)For: The treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school. 1. 26 Oct 2026Asked on this site ## Discussion 0 [Add to the discussion](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367W7E3GZG/who-wrote-the-treatise-in-pherc-1667%23discussion) Help with this question [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ] [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367W7E3GZG/who-wrote-the-treatise-in-pherc-1667%23add-answer) [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ] [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367W7E3GZG/who-wrote-the-treatise-in-pherc-1667%23add-evidence) [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ] [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367W7E3GZG/who-wrote-the-treatise-in-pherc-1667%23add-question) [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ] [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367W7E3GZG/who-wrote-the-treatise-in-pherc-1667%23add-source) Where it fits Herculaneum Papyri and the Vesuvius Challenge [**What do the still-sealed rolls contain?** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/herculaneum-papyri/questions/QST0D367VZM0NNS/what-do-the-still-sealed-rolls-contain)Key question · most likely the sealed rolls mirror the opened ones; they are mainly Philodemus and other Epicurean works **Who wrote the treatise in PHerc. 1667?** You're here · the treatise is by another Stoic of the late third or second century BC, possibly in Chrysippus's school [ Ask a question under this one ]