# Can anything of Gutian and Lullubian be recovered from names alone? · Hattic, Kassite and the half-read languages of the cuneiform archives > Three answers have been proposed. None is ahead on the evidence yet. Three are still possible. Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/questions/QST0DEDWKF82K3C/can-anything-of-gutian-and-lullubian-be-recovered-from-names Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) Updated: 2026-10-31T15:46:14+00:00 --- **0** # Can anything of Gutian and Lullubian be recovered from names alone? Asked 31 Oct 2026 by [**apollo** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/u/apollo)·3 answers·0·0 following **Three answers, none ahead** None is ahead yet. See what would settle it. ## Where it stands Three answers have been proposed. None is ahead on the evidence yet. Three are still possible. ## Why it matters Gutian is known from the names of about twenty rulers in the Sumerian King List, with a recurring ending that may be a case marker, and one divine name; Lullubian from personal names in the same region⁠[[1]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDMMQSVE12/gutians)⁠[[2]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKNW19JHY/ancient-near-eastern-and-european-isolates). Henning's reading of the Gutian names as Tocharian is the only classification ever proposed, and most scholars rejected it as a comparison across more than two millennia⁠[[3]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDMN8NFRQ4/the-first-indo-europeans-in-history)⁠[[4]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D90DX6W1D16/the-tarim-mummies-ancient-china-and-the-mystery-of-the). ## Answers 3 [**None of these.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/answers/ANS0DEDZBKS3HN9/none-of-these) Not tested yet Evidence: none yet Still possible [**Nothing beyond the sound shape of a few names can be recovered; Gutian and Lullubian are unclassifiable without a text.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/answers/ANS0DEDZBBSZE5P/nothing-beyond-the-sound-shape-of-a-few-names-can-be) Evidence for it, no test yet Evidence: 1 for Still possible [**The Gutian king names show Tocharian case endings, so Gutian was an early Indo-European language related to Tocharian.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/answers/ANS0DEDZAW1VW86/the-gutian-king-names-show-tocharian-case-endings-so-gutian) Evidence for it, no test yet Evidence: 1 for, 1 against Still possible ## History 1. 1978[Walter B. Henning: henning noted recurring endings on the Gutian king names that resemble Tocharian case endings, and a likeness between…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDMN8NFRQ4/the-first-indo-europeans-in-history)For: The Gutian king names show Tocharian case endings, so Gutian was an early Indo-European language related to Tocharian. 1. 2000[Mallory & Mair: most scholars rejected Henning's comparison because it links names of about 2100 BC with a language first written in…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D90DX6W1D16/the-tarim-mummies-ancient-china-and-the-mystery-of-the)Against: The Gutian king names show Tocharian case endings, so Gutian was an early Indo-European language related to Tocharian. 1. 2002[Marc Van De Mieroop: most scholars rejected Henning's comparison because it links names of about 2100 BC with a language first written in…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDMMQSVE12/gutians)Against: The Gutian king names show Tocharian case endings, so Gutian was an early Indo-European language related to Tocharian. 1. 2002[Marc Van De Mieroop: gutian is known from about twenty royal names and one divine name, and Lullubian from personal names only.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDMMQSVE12/gutians)For: Nothing beyond the sound shape of a few names can be recovered; Gutian and Lullubian are unclassifiable without a text. 1. 2017[Piotr Michalowski: gutian is known from about twenty royal names and one divine name, and Lullubian from personal names only.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKNW19JHY/ancient-near-eastern-and-european-isolates)For: Nothing beyond the sound shape of a few names can be recovered; Gutian and Lullubian are unclassifiable without a text. 1. 31 Oct 2026Asked on this site ## Discussion 0 [Add to the discussion](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/questions/QST0DEDWKF82K3C/can-anything-of-gutian-and-lullubian-be-recovered-from-names%23discussion) Help with this question [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ] [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/questions/QST0DEDWKF82K3C/can-anything-of-gutian-and-lullubian-be-recovered-from-names%23add-answer) [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ] [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/questions/QST0DEDWKF82K3C/can-anything-of-gutian-and-lullubian-be-recovered-from-names%23add-evidence) [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ] [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/questions/QST0DEDWKF82K3C/can-anything-of-gutian-and-lullubian-be-recovered-from-names%23add-question) [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ] [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/hattic-kassite-lost-languages/questions/QST0DEDWKF82K3C/can-anything-of-gutian-and-lullubian-be-recovered-from-names%23add-source) Where it fits Hattic, Kassite and the half-read languages of the cuneiform archives **Can anything of Gutian and Lullubian be recovered from names alone?** Key question · you're here [ Ask a question under this one ]