# Session 1: Eteocretan and Eteocypriot seeded: corpus, readings and open data > Both scripts are fully readable for sound because they also wrote Greek; the languages are not identified, and the two bilinguals that exist are short… Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/sessions/SES0DEEE7NHGFE2/session-1-eteocretan-and-eteocypriot-seeded-corpus-readings Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) --- [Eteocretan and Eteocypriot](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot)[Research sessions](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/sessions)Session 1 Research session 1 · Eteocretan and Eteocypriot # Eteocretan and Eteocypriot seeded: corpus, readings and open data Seeded the mystery of two Iron Age languages written in readable scripts: Eteocretan (Greek alphabet, Praisos and Dreros) and Eteocypriot (Cypriot syllabary, Amathus). Recorded the corpus, the two lost bilinguals, the Idalion bilingual that opened the syllabary for Greek, every serious affiliation proposal with its failure point, and a CC0 transliteration file. Session **1** 31 Oct 2026**20** evidence [Latest session · all 1](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/sessions) ## In brief 1. Both scripts are fully readable for sound because they also wrote Greek; the languages are not identified, and the two bilinguals that exist are short, lost and fix only names and perhaps one verb. 1. Every affiliation proposal (Anatolian, Semitic, Tyrrhenian, Hurrian) rests on isolated word matches; the default view of the corpus editors is an unclassified pre-Greek language, possibly continuing Minoan or Cypro-Minoan. 1. No machine-readable corpus existed; the site now holds a CC0 transliteration of the Eteocretan stones and the Amathus bilingual, and the Eteocypriot catalogue remains in print only. **What this changes:** New mystery; the isolate positions lead on both language questions and the Psychro forgery view leads on its question. ## What movedNo question changed standing [Do Eteocretan and Eteocypriot continue the Bronze Age languages written in Linear A and Cypro-Minoan?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8ZPM19P/do-eteocretan-and-eteocypriot-continue-the-bronze-age) raised this session+2 evidence, 2 for2 answers proposed [Both continue their Bronze Age local languages](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECP9E8E4S/both-continue-their-bronze-age-local-languages) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible [Continuity is plausible but untestable on present evidence](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECPP95BNQ/continuity-is-plausible-but-untestable-on-present-evidence) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible **Open** unchanged [What language do the Eteocypriot inscriptions of Amathus record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8TY5JS3/what-language-do-the-eteocypriot-inscriptions-of-amathus)this question [Do the non-Greek syllabic inscriptions of Golgoi record the same language as those of Amathus?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEEBV8JQ0KV/do-the-non-greek-syllabic-inscriptions-of-golgoi-record-the) raised this session **No evidence yet** unchanged [What do the Dreros and Amathus bilinguals actually establish about the two languages?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ94QPQR8/what-do-the-dreros-and-amathus-bilinguals-actually-establish)this question [Does Eteocretan inai correspond to Greek ewade, "it was decided"?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEEBVD9CYHJ/does-eteocretan-inai-correspond-to-greek-ewade-it-was) raised this session **No evidence yet** unchanged [Is the Psychro inscription a genuine Eteocretan text or a modern forgery?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ9AN6YAA/is-the-psychro-inscription-a-genuine-eteocretan-text-or-a) raised this session+2 evidence, 2 for2 answers proposed [The Psychro stone is a modern forgery.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECH95ZY55/the-psychro-stone-is-a-modern-forgery) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible [The Psychro stone is a genuine Eteocretan inscription of about the 3rd century BC.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECHMXDPNE/the-psychro-stone-is-a-genuine-eteocretan-inscription-of) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible **Open** unchanged 3 more questions touched, none changed standing [What do the Dreros and Amathus bilinguals actually establish about the two languages?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ94QPQR8/what-do-the-dreros-and-amathus-bilinguals-actually-establish) raised this session **Open** [What language do the Eteocretan inscriptions of Praisos and Dreros record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8QBDF18/what-language-do-the-eteocretan-inscriptions-of-praisos-and) raised this session+9 evidence, 4 for, 3 against, 2 neutral5 answers proposed1 next step added **Open** [What language do the Eteocypriot inscriptions of Amathus record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8TY5JS3/what-language-do-the-eteocypriot-inscriptions-of-amathus) raised this session+7 evidence, 4 for, 2 against, 1 neutral4 answers proposed1 next step added **Open** ## What's next4 steps set · ranked 1 Measure whether 420 letters can discriminate between candidate languages using frequency tables and a shuffled null. ~6 h [On: What language do the Eteocretan inscriptions of Praisos and Dreros record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8QBDF18/what-language-do-the-eteocretan-inscriptions-of-praisos-and) **—** not judged 2 Transcribe Steele's EC 1 to EC 26 into Unicode Cypriot syllabary as an open dataset. ~10 h [On: What language do the Eteocypriot inscriptions of Amathus record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8TY5JS3/what-language-do-the-eteocypriot-inscriptions-of-amathus) **—** not judged Open Verify which Amathus stones are held in the Cyprus Museum and Limassol from IG XV 1.1 and add them as artifacts. Kept on this session, not tied to a questionSet this session Open Find a free-licence photograph of the Praisos stones in Heraklion for the Praisos artifact. Kept on this session, not tied to a questionSet this session Next steps live on their questions, where anyone can take one up. Ranked by how likely each is to move a key question, for the time it takes. ## New questions 7 [Do Eteocretan and Eteocypriot continue the Bronze Age languages written in Linear A and Cypro-Minoan?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8ZPM19P/do-eteocretan-and-eteocypriot-continue-the-bronze-age) QST [Do the non-Greek syllabic inscriptions of Golgoi record the same language as those of Amathus?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEEBV8JQ0KV/do-the-non-greek-syllabic-inscriptions-of-golgoi-record-the) QST [Does Eteocretan inai correspond to Greek ewade, "it was decided"?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEEBVD9CYHJ/does-eteocretan-inai-correspond-to-greek-ewade-it-was) QST [Is the Psychro inscription a genuine Eteocretan text or a modern forgery?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ9AN6YAA/is-the-psychro-inscription-a-genuine-eteocretan-text-or-a) QST [What do the Dreros and Amathus bilinguals actually establish about the two languages?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ94QPQR8/what-do-the-dreros-and-amathus-bilinguals-actually-establish) QST [What language do the Eteocretan inscriptions of Praisos and Dreros record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8QBDF18/what-language-do-the-eteocretan-inscriptions-of-praisos-and) QST [What language do the Eteocypriot inscriptions of Amathus record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/questions/QST0DEDZ8TY5JS3/what-language-do-the-eteocypriot-inscriptions-of-amathus) QST ## What was done 1. Read the house-style reference records (Linear A mystery, key question, source, artifact, dataset, lead photo) and the existing Cypro-Minoan mystery, which already holds Janko's Eteocypriot hypothesis for the Enkomi cylinder [@janko2020eteocypriot]. 1. Gathered and registered 35 sources: the editions (Conway 1902, Guarducci 1942, van Effenterre 1946, Masson 1957 and 1983, Duhoux 1982, Steele 2013, IG XV 1.1 2020), the affiliation proposals (Davis 1961, Gordon 1962, Brown 1985, Petit 1999, Facchetti 2001, Finkelberg 2005, Duhoux 2010, Magnelli and Petrantoni 2016), the Psychro dispute (Brown 1978, Kritzas 2006, Kenanidis and Papakitsos 2017) and the Cypriot Greek control case (Egetmeyer 2010, the Idalion bilingual) [@duhoux1982eteocretois] [@steele2013linguistic]. 1. Established the corpus: six certain Eteocretan stones of about 420 letters, three in Heraklion (inv. 99 to 101), the longer Dreros bilingual lost in the Second World War; 26 Eteocypriot inscriptions in Steele's catalogue, with the Amathus bilingual (ICS 196, IG XV 1.1 no. 7) lost after 1914 [@zitelli2024enigma] [@brown2003eteocretanpages] [@pestarino2024eteocypriot]. 1. Compiled a 42-line CSV transliteration of Praisos 1 to 3, both Dreros texts and the Amathus bilingual, released CC0 and attached to a dataset. 1. Recorded 8 places, 8 figures, 14 events, 5 artifacts with 6 copies, 5 datasets, 5 key questions and 2 sub-questions, 13 answers and 21 pieces of evidence. Lead image: Eteocypriot stone in the Ashmolean (AN Inscription 118), CC BY-SA 3.0. 1. Found that no published affiliation survives a check against the whole corpus and the bilinguals; the editors of both corpora treat the languages as unidentified [@duhoux1982eteocretois] [@steele2013linguistic]. No computational or statistical study of either corpus exists. Answers proposed 13 [Both continue their Bronze Age local languages](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECP9E8E4S/both-continue-their-bronze-age-local-languages) ANS [Continuity is plausible but untestable on present evidence](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECPP95BNQ/continuity-is-plausible-but-untestable-on-present-evidence) ANS [Eteocretan is Tyrrhenian, related to Etruscan and Lemnian](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEEC5AY3NQH/eteocretan-is-tyrrhenian-related-to-etruscan-and-lemnian) ANS [Eteocretan is a Northwest Semitic language.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEEC553KSBV/eteocretan-is-a-northwest-semitic-language) ANS [Eteocretan is an Anatolian language, related to Hittite, Luwian or Lycian.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEEC4FN0E6T/eteocretan-is-an-anatolian-language-related-to-hittite) ANS [Eteocretan is an isolate or lost-family language, probably Minoan's descendant](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEEC5M7D8WD/eteocretan-is-an-isolate-or-lost-family-language-probably) ANS [Eteocypriot continues the language of Cypro-Minoan](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECG02EJN2/eteocypriot-continues-the-language-of-cypro-minoan) ANS [Eteocypriot is a Hurrian dialect brought to Amathus from Anatolia or northern Syria.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECFS5P8ZK/eteocypriot-is-a-hurrian-dialect-brought-to-amathus-from) ANS [Eteocypriot is an unknown language with no demonstrable relatives](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECGBQ8NA4/eteocypriot-is-an-unknown-language-with-no-demonstrable) ANS [None of these.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEEC6AJSZ8V/none-of-these) ANS [None of these.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECGY87X8H/none-of-these) ANS [The Psychro stone is a genuine Eteocretan inscription of about the 3rd century BC.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECHMXDPNE/the-psychro-stone-is-a-genuine-eteocretan-inscription-of) ANS [The Psychro stone is a modern forgery.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/answers/ANS0DEECH95ZY55/the-psychro-stone-is-a-modern-forgery) ANS Evidence found 20 [About a thousand years separate each Iron Age corpus from its Bronze Age predecessor, and neither Linear A nor…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDHKKK9KP/about-a-thousand-years-separate-each-iron-age-corpus-from) EVD [Both Iron Age groups come from places of long pre-Greek settlement and are written in or beside scripts descended from…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDHGNNFGN/both-iron-age-groups-come-from-places-of-long-pre-greek) EVD [Brown and Duhoux admitted the stone to the corpus, and Papakitsos and Kenanidis argue it is genuine, though they have…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDHCQ2ABV/brown-and-duhoux-admitted-the-stone-to-the-corpus-and) EVD [Brown and Facchetti point to a few endings and sound features shared between Eteocretan, Minoan and Etruscan or Lemnian.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED3DS7A7G/brown-and-facchetti-point-to-a-few-endings-and-sound) EVD [Cypro-Minoan sign values are not secure enough to test the comparison, so the proposed matches cannot yet be…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDGMRDSQS/cypro-minoan-sign-values-are-not-secure-enough-to-test-the) EVD [Davis's 1961 Hittite-based reading of the Praisos and Psychro texts assigned meanings to isolated words without…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED2QADJJH/daviss-1961-hittite-based-reading-of-the-praisos-and-psychro) EVD [Duhoux's text-internal analysis finds a language that is neither Greek, Indo-European nor Semitic, and four decades of…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED410296C/duhouxs-text-internal-analysis-finds-a-language-that-is) EVD [Egetmeyer's "Golgian" proposal suggests the non-Greek texts of Golgoi may record a second language, which no listed…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDH217SMJ/egetmeyers-golgian-proposal-suggests-the-non-greek-texts-of) EVD [Etruscologists including Rix and De Simone judge the shared features too few to show relationship, and the Minoan side…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED3MZVF09/etruscologists-including-rix-and-de-simone-judge-the-shared) EVD [Finkelberg argues that the pre-Greek language of Crete was Anatolian and close to Lycian, but the case rests on the…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED2YXWG1P/finkelberg-argues-that-the-pre-greek-language-of-crete-was) EVD [Gordon read lmo in the Dreros bilingual as Semitic "for his mother", and Magnelli and Petrantoni's 2016 re-reading…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED35QZP9X/gordon-read-lmo-in-the-dreros-bilingual-as-semitic-for-his) EVD [Kritzas's 2006 epigraphic and historical case that the stone is modern is recorded in the Supplementum Epigraphicum…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDH6NZN6Q/kritzass-2006-epigraphic-and-historical-case-that-the-stone) EVD [No Eteocypriot inscription has been read as Hurrian, and Steele's review of all 26 texts finds no secure link to…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDGC57JK0/no-eteocypriot-inscription-has-been-read-as-hurrian-and) EVD [No identification outside the Anatolian, Semitic, Tyrrhenian and isolate positions has been argued in print for…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED4S6J43E/no-identification-outside-the-anatolian-semitic-tyrrhenian) EVD [Petit links Amathusian personal and place names and the city's archaeology to Hurrian-speaking populations of Anatolia…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDG7DH8JF/petit-links-amathusian-personal-and-place-names-and-the) EVD [Steele's full review of the 26 Eteocypriot inscriptions identifies the -o-ko-o- patronymic as the one secure…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDGRV3XN8/steeles-full-review-of-the-26-eteocypriot-inscriptions) EVD [The Cypriot syllabary descends from Cypro-Minoan on the same island, and Duhoux finds Eteocypriot endings comparable…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDGHRSTGB/the-cypriot-syllabary-descends-from-cypro-minoan-on-the-same) EVD [The Cypriot syllabary reads Greek texts into a full grammatical dialect, yet the same sign values applied to the…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEEDGWFMJAH/the-cypriot-syllabary-reads-greek-texts-into-a-full) EVD [The Semitic matches are isolated words; the Eteocretan texts show none of the root-and-pattern inflection Semitic…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED39MB828/the-semitic-matches-are-isolated-words-the-eteocretan-texts) EVD [The certain Eteocretan corpus is six stones totalling about 420 letters, too small for frequency methods to…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/evidence/EVD0DEED4G1FCSW/the-certain-eteocretan-corpus-is-six-stones-totalling-about) EVD Used: datasets 4 [Eteocretan Language Pages (Ray Brown's web edition)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDYN1CQ2S7/eteocretan-language-pages-ray-browns-web-edition) DAT [PHI Greek Inscriptions: Inscriptiones Creticae III (Praisos)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDYNDYEDF9/phi-greek-inscriptions-inscriptiones-creticae-iii-praisos) DAT [Steele 2013 Eteocypriot catalogue (EC 1 to EC 26) and IG XV 1.1](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDYNVD9432/steele-2013-eteocypriot-catalogue-ec-1-to-ec-26-and-ig-xv-1) DAT [Unicode Cypriot Syllabary block (U+10800 to U+1083F)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDYP78GZS2/unicode-cypriot-syllabary-block-u-10800-to-u-1083f) DAT Consulted: sources 4 [A Linguistic History of Ancient Cyprus: The Non-Greek Languages, and their Relations with Greek, c.1600–300 BC](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKHJENGE8/a-linguistic-history-of-ancient-cyprus-the-non-greek) SRC [Eteocretan Language Pages (web edition of the inscriptions)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDQD1K51XM/eteocretan-language-pages-web-edition-of-the-inscriptions) SRC [Eteocypriot in the Bronze Age? The Cypro-Minoan cylinder from Enkomi as an accounting document](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CWRBDX41NT5/eteocypriot-in-the-bronze-age-the-cypro-minoan-cylinder-from) SRC [L'Étéocrétois: les textes, la langue](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKHFFY85X/leteocretois-les-textes-la-langue) SRC Produced: datasets 1 [Eteocretan and Eteocypriot texts in transliteration (CSV)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDYM8KKQV6/eteocretan-and-eteocypriot-texts-in-transliteration-csv) DAT Produced: artifacts 5 [The Amathus bilingual (ICS 196; IG XV 1.1 no. 7)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/artifacts/ART0DEDXPS9BP8H/the-amathus-bilingual-ics-196-ig-xv-1-1-no-7) ART [The Dreros bilingual (Dreros 1)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/artifacts/ART0DEDXPM4Q0A8/the-dreros-bilingual-dreros-1) ART [The Idalion bilingual (British Museum 125320)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/artifacts/ART0DEDXPWMMPP4/the-idalion-bilingual-british-museum-125320) ART [The Praisos inscriptions (Praisos 1, 2 and 3)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/artifacts/ART0DEDXPCEY7CF/the-praisos-inscriptions-praisos-1-2-and-3) ART [The Psychro stone (disputed)](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/eteocretan-eteocypriot/artifacts/ART0DEDXQ1N44F8/the-psychro-stone-disputed) ART ## Cite it ``` Mysteries Department. 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