# Session 1: Cretan Hieroglyphic seeded: corpus, readings and open data > No word of Cretan Hieroglyphic has been read; the only language hypothesis with a specialist following is that it writes the Minoan language of Linear A… Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/sessions/SES0DEECGMX10RS/session-1-cretan-hieroglyphic-seeded-corpus-readings-and Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) --- [Cretan Hieroglyphic](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic)[Research sessions](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/sessions)Session 1 Research session 1 · Cretan Hieroglyphic # Cretan Hieroglyphic seeded: corpus, readings and open data Seeded the Cretan Hieroglyphic mystery: corpus and editions, the seals-as-writing debate, the relation to Linear A, the published readings, the restricted digital resources, and the questions and tests that would move the problem. Session **1** 31 Oct 2026**18** evidence [Latest session · all 1](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/sessions) ## In brief 1. No word of Cretan Hieroglyphic has been read; the only language hypothesis with a specialist following is that it writes the Minoan language of Linear A, and it has been tested only by one contested statistical comparison. 1. The live scholarly problems are prior to decipherment: which seal marks are writing, how many signs there are (144 in CHIC, about 98 after the 2021 review) and whether the Archanes seals belong to this script. 1. There is no open machine-readable corpus and no Unicode encoding; a sign-level table of the CHIC clay documents is the first step for any test. **What this changes:** New mystery: six key questions opened, none answered; the Minoan-language answer leads only weakly. ## What movedNo question changed standing [How is Cretan Hieroglyphic related to Linear A: parent, sister, or neither?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWYGYVMBZ/how-is-cretan-hieroglyphic-related-to-linear-a-parent-sister)this question [Do the Linear B sound values of look-alike signs apply to Cretan Hieroglyphic?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX61NXYH0/do-the-linear-b-sound-values-of-look-alike-signs-apply-to) raised this session **No evidence yet** unchanged [How many distinct signs does the script have?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWVQEXEKE/how-many-distinct-signs-does-the-script-have)this question [Do the Malia altar stone and the Arkalochori axe belong to Cretan Hieroglyphic?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX68Z885Q/do-the-malia-altar-stone-and-the-arkalochori-axe-belong-to) raised this session **No evidence yet** unchanged [How is Cretan Hieroglyphic related to Linear A: parent, sister, or neither?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWYGYVMBZ/how-is-cretan-hieroglyphic-related-to-linear-a-parent-sister) raised this session+2 evidence, 1 for, 1 against2 answers proposed [Cretan Hieroglyphic and Linear A are sister scripts descended from one Prepalatial Cretan source.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9PK2P95N/cretan-hieroglyphic-and-linear-a-are-sister-scripts) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible [Linear A developed from Cretan Hieroglyphic by simplification of its signs.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9QJ48YR0/linear-a-developed-from-cretan-hieroglyphic-by) · proposed this session · 0 for, 1 againstPossible **Open** unchanged [How many distinct signs does the script have?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWVQEXEKE/how-many-distinct-signs-does-the-script-have) raised this session+2 evidence, 2 for2 answers proposed [The script has about 100 distinct signs once allographs are merged, close to the size of the Linear A and B syllabaries.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9E4SK022/the-script-has-about-100-distinct-signs-once-allographs-are) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible [The script has well over 130 signs, because many seal motifs CHIC excluded are signs.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9F7E03M9/the-script-has-well-over-130-signs-because-many-seal-motifs) · proposed this session · 1 for, 0 againstPossible **Open** unchanged 4 more questions touched, none changed standing [Is the Archanes script of the late Prepalatial seals the first stage of Cretan Hieroglyphic, or a separate script?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX0QKA1JC/is-the-archanes-script-of-the-late-prepalatial-seals-the) raised this session+2 evidence, 2 for2 answers proposed **Open** [What did the clay documents and the seal inscriptions record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX1A1NMX2/what-did-the-clay-documents-and-the-seal-inscriptions-record) raised this session **Open** [What language does Cretan Hieroglyphic record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWHYH7XCD/what-language-does-cretan-hieroglyphic-record) raised this session+8 evidence, 3 for, 4 against, 1 neutral6 answers proposed1 next step added **Open** [Which marks on the hieroglyphic seals are writing, and which are ornament?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWSVXAX3N/which-marks-on-the-hieroglyphic-seals-are-writing-and-which) raised this session+4 evidence, 2 for, 2 against3 answers proposed **Open** ## What's next3 steps set · ranked 1 Build an open sign-level table of the CHIC clay documents in CHIC sign numbers. ~40 h [On: What language does Cretan Hieroglyphic record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWHYH7XCD/what-language-does-cretan-hieroglyphic-record) **—** not judged Open Find the printed titles of the 2024 volume's chapters 4, 7 and 8 and correct the descriptive titles on their source records. Kept on this session, not tied to a questionSet this session Open Verify the Knossos, Malia Quartier Mu, Petras, Archanes-Phourni, Vrysinas and Sitia museum coordinates against OpenStreetMap; they are from general reference at 100 m to 1 km precision. Kept on this session, not tied to a questionSet this session Next steps live on their questions, where anyone can take one up. Ranked by how likely each is to move a key question, for the time it takes. ## New questions 8 [Do the Linear B sound values of look-alike signs apply to Cretan Hieroglyphic?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX61NXYH0/do-the-linear-b-sound-values-of-look-alike-signs-apply-to) QST [Do the Malia altar stone and the Arkalochori axe belong to Cretan Hieroglyphic?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX68Z885Q/do-the-malia-altar-stone-and-the-arkalochori-axe-belong-to) QST [How is Cretan Hieroglyphic related to Linear A: parent, sister, or neither?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWYGYVMBZ/how-is-cretan-hieroglyphic-related-to-linear-a-parent-sister) QST [How many distinct signs does the script have?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWVQEXEKE/how-many-distinct-signs-does-the-script-have) QST [Is the Archanes script of the late Prepalatial seals the first stage of Cretan Hieroglyphic, or a separate script?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX0QKA1JC/is-the-archanes-script-of-the-late-prepalatial-seals-the) QST [What did the clay documents and the seal inscriptions record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDX1A1NMX2/what-did-the-clay-documents-and-the-seal-inscriptions-record) QST [What language does Cretan Hieroglyphic record?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWHYH7XCD/what-language-does-cretan-hieroglyphic-record) QST [Which marks on the hieroglyphic seals are writing, and which are ornament?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/questions/QST0DEDWSVXAX3N/which-marks-on-the-hieroglyphic-seals-are-writing-and-which) QST ## What was done 1. Read the Linear A and Phaistos Disc records and the reference records for house style, and checked which places, figures and sources already existed (Crete, Heraklion museum, Phaistos, Arkalochori cave, Scripta Minoa I, Duhoux 2000, Davis 2018, Corazza 2021, Salgarella 2020) [@evans1909scripta] [@duhoux2000how]. 1. Researched the corpus: CHIC (1996) with 331 objects and 144 signs, the Petras archive, the Vrysinas prism, the Knossos cult-centre seal, and the 2024 Cambridge volume and its BMCR review [@olivier1996chic] [@tsipopoulou2010petras] [@hallager2012vrysinas] [@kanta2022seal] [@civitillo2024cretan] [@donnelly2026bmcr]. 1. Read the INSCRIBE-era reassessments: the 2021 sign-list revision to about 98 signs (open access, CC BY), the 2023 study of excluded seal motifs, the 2022 comparison with Linear A, and Ferrara's 2024 survey of the repertoires [@montecchi2021rationalizing] [@ferrara2023lostsigns] [@ferrara2022relationship] [@ferrara2024repertoires]. 1. Read the Ariadne 2024 paper on the Knossos Anetaki finds and confirmed that the long ivory inscription (KN Zg 57, 58) is Linear A, not Cretan Hieroglyphic, though carved in the hieroglyphic seal style; it is recorded only to separate it from this corpus [@kanta2024anetaki]. 1. Recorded the readings outside the specialist literature (Luwian, Sumerian-derived Protolinear, Uralic) with the tests they have not passed [@woudhuizen2002trowel] [@kenanidis2016protolinear] [@revesz2017cretan]. 1. Checked digital resources: no machine-readable corpus, DBAS-CHS restricted to personal and scientific use, INSCRIBE 3D models view-only, linear0.xyz without a licence, and no Unicode range or proposal on the SMP roadmap [@dbas-chs] [@inscribe-ch-3d] [@linear0-site] [@unicode-smp-roadmap]. Nothing was openly licensed and small enough to upload as data; four CC BY-SA photographs from Commons were uploaded as copies. 1. Published 32 sources, 10 places, 8 figures, the mystery with lead photograph, 10 events, 5 artifacts with 5 copies, 5 datasets, 6 key questions and 2 sub-questions, 15 answers and 18 evidence items, and next steps on the language and seals questions. Answers proposed 15 [Cretan Hieroglyphic and Linear A are sister scripts descended from one Prepalatial Cretan source.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9PK2P95N/cretan-hieroglyphic-and-linear-a-are-sister-scripts) ANS [Cretan Hieroglyphic belongs to a script family readable through a Uralic language related to Hungarian.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEDZ62JTVXY/cretan-hieroglyphic-belongs-to-a-script-family-readable) ANS [Cretan Hieroglyphic is an ornamental form of a Cretan proto-syllabary whose sign names and values come from Sumerian.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEDZ5QXZJKJ/cretan-hieroglyphic-is-an-ornamental-form-of-a-cretan-proto) ANS [Cretan Hieroglyphic records Luwian, an Anatolian language, and its signs derive from Egyptian hieroglyphs.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEDZ57Q1KBE/cretan-hieroglyphic-records-luwian-an-anatolian-language-and) ANS [Cretan Hieroglyphic records the same Minoan language as Linear A.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEDYQ1E9ZDN/cretan-hieroglyphic-records-the-same-minoan-language-as) ANS [Every graph on a hieroglyphic seal face belongs to the script's graphic system, including motifs CHIC set aside as…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9BBE5B9Q/every-graph-on-a-hieroglyphic-seal-face-belongs-to-the) ANS [Linear A developed from Cretan Hieroglyphic by simplification of its signs.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9QJ48YR0/linear-a-developed-from-cretan-hieroglyphic-by) ANS [None of these.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEDZ6XGJQGK/none-of-these) ANS [Some seal graphs are writing and the rest are decoration; a graph counts as a sign when it is also attested on clay.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9BT7PFNG/some-seal-graphs-are-writing-and-the-rest-are-decoration-a) ANS [The Archanes script is a separate script, distinct from both Cretan Hieroglyphic and Linear A.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9GB9F8CD/the-archanes-script-is-a-separate-script-distinct-from-both) ANS [The Archanes script is the first stage of Cretan Hieroglyphic.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9J5BAN7X/the-archanes-script-is-the-first-stage-of-cretan) ANS [The language cannot be identified from this corpus: it is an isolate or a language with no other written record, and…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEDZ6SE0F1B/the-language-cannot-be-identified-from-this-corpus-it-is-an) ANS [The script has about 100 distinct signs once allographs are merged, close to the size of the Linear A and B syllabaries.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9E4SK022/the-script-has-about-100-distinct-signs-once-allographs-are) ANS [The script has well over 130 signs, because many seal motifs CHIC excluded are signs.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9F7E03M9/the-script-has-well-over-130-signs-because-many-seal-motifs) ANS [The seals were luxury ornaments carrying owners' names in a script meant to be seen more than read.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/answers/ANS0DEE9CZF89ZJ/the-seals-were-luxury-ornaments-carrying-owners-names-in-a) ANS Answers proposed 5 [CHIC: Corpus Hieroglyphicarum Inscriptionum Cretae (331 documents, 144 signs)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDVD6YCPW0/chic-corpus-hieroglyphicarum-inscriptionum-cretae-331) DAT [DBAS-CHS: Cretan Hieroglyphic Seals database (Florence)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDVHR0YSCE/dbas-chs-cretan-hieroglyphic-seals-database-florence) DAT [Evans, Scripta Minoa I (1909): first sign list and plates (Heidelberg scan)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDVZ09HQ3D/evans-scripta-minoa-i-1909-first-sign-list-and-plates) DAT [INSCRIBE 3D models of Cretan Hieroglyphic documents (Bologna)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDVPGG5CDW/inscribe-3d-models-of-cretan-hieroglyphic-documents-bologna) DAT [linear0.xyz: Cretan Hieroglyphs inscription browser (CHIC images, Younger transcriptions)](https://mysteriesdept.com/datasets/DAT0DEDVTDH4MEC/linear0-xyz-cretan-hieroglyphs-inscription-browser-chic) DAT Answers proposed 32 [A Hieroglyphic seal from the cult centre of the city of Knossos (KN S (4/4) 01)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDHJH0CKWC/a-hieroglyphic-seal-from-the-cult-centre-of-the-city-of) SRC [A unified signary and acrophonic origins for Cretan Hieroglyphic signs (chapter 7 of Cretan Hieroglyphic)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDM6TH80R2/a-unified-signary-and-acrophonic-origins-for-cretan) SRC [An archaeological and epigraphical overview of some inscriptions found in the Cult Center of the city of Knossos (Anetaki plot)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDHPY1PXZ9/an-archaeological-and-epigraphical-overview-of-some) SRC [Corpus Hieroglyphicarum Inscriptionum Cretae (CHIC)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDGHHEQ8AC/corpus-hieroglyphicarum-inscriptionum-cretae-chic) SRC [Cretan 'Hieroglyphic' and the nature of script](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDH31NWJSE/cretan-hieroglyphic-and-the-nature-of-script) SRC [Cretan Hieroglyphic Seals: A New Classification of Symbols and Ornamental/Filling Motifs](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJ3W6CMA4/cretan-hieroglyphic-seals-a-new-classification-of-symbols) SRC [Cretan Hieroglyphic Sign Repertoires: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKWQ4P0TK/cretan-hieroglyphic-sign-repertoires-yesterday-today-and) SRC [Cretan Hieroglyphic: The Earliest Script on Crete. Semiotics, Linguistics, Archaeology and Palaeography](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDGNWHJN54/cretan-hieroglyphic-the-earliest-script-on-crete-semiotics) SRC [Cretan Hieroglyphics: The Ornamental and Ritual Version of the Cretan Protolinear Script](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJVBE1VPD/cretan-hieroglyphics-the-ornamental-and-ritual-version-of) SRC [Cretan Hieroglyphs inscription browser (linear0.xyz)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKN1BTSHS/cretan-hieroglyphs-inscription-browser-linear0-xyz) SRC [Cretan Writing in the Second Millennium B.C.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJFSH64K1/cretan-writing-in-the-second-millennium-b-c) SRC [Cretan hieroglyphs (Wikipedia article)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDK86XR502/cretan-hieroglyphs-wikipedia-article) SRC [DBAS-CHS: Cretan Hieroglyphic Seals database](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKB8XRZ46/dbas-chs-cretan-hieroglyphic-seals-database) SRC [Do Cretan Hieroglyphic and Linear A record the same language? A syllabotactic test (chapter 8 of Cretan Hieroglyphic)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKZWFPAYA/do-cretan-hieroglyphic-and-linear-a-record-the-same-language) SRC [INSCRIBE 3D Interactive Web Viewer: Cretan Hieroglyphic](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKEP8F2YJ/inscribe-3d-interactive-web-viewer-cretan-hieroglyphic) SRC [Imagining Cretan Scripts: The Influence of Visual Motifs on the Creation of Script-Signs in Bronze Age Crete](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJR3ZGWFH/imagining-cretan-scripts-the-influence-of-visual-motifs-on) SRC [In Search of Lost Signs: A New Approach to the Issue of Writing and Non-Writing on Cretan Hieroglyphic Seals](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDGYPFMCBS/in-search-of-lost-signs-a-new-approach-to-the-issue-of) SRC [Mnamon: Cretan Hieroglyphic, online resources](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKJ7BMF50/mnamon-cretan-hieroglyphic-online-resources) SRC [Rationalizing the Cretan Hieroglyphic sign-list](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDGSRMZC25/rationalizing-the-cretan-hieroglyphic-sign-list) SRC [Review of M. Civitillo, S. Ferrara, T. Meissner (eds), Cretan Hieroglyphic](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDK45N1KZM/review-of-m-civitillo-s-ferrara-t-meissner-eds-cretan) SRC [Roadmap to the Supplementary Multilingual Plane (SMP)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDKRGMDW6A/roadmap-to-the-supplementary-multilingual-plane-smp) SRC [Seals as luxury ornaments and the Archanes script (chapter 4 of Cretan Hieroglyphic)](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDM2ZPTMFX/seals-as-luxury-ornaments-and-the-archanes-script-chapter-4) SRC [The 'Trowel'-sign (Evans No. 18): Another Instance of Egyptian Influence on Cretan Hieroglyphic](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDMATYA3Z0/the-trowel-sign-evans-no-18-another-instance-of-egyptian) SRC [The Common Origin of Cretan Hieroglyphs and Linear A](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJMPNJRYQ/the-common-origin-of-cretan-hieroglyphs-and-linear-a) SRC [The Cretan Hieroglyphic Script of the Second Millennium BC: Description, Analysis, Function and Decipherment Perspectives](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJ7R9S1TM/the-cretan-hieroglyphic-script-of-the-second-millennium-bc) SRC [The Cretan Hieroglyphic Script: A Review Article](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJCKW0BRQ/the-cretan-hieroglyphic-script-a-review-article) SRC [The Cretan Script Family Includes the Carian Alphabet](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJZHW8J6C/the-cretan-script-family-includes-the-carian-alphabet) SRC [The First 'European' Writing: Redefining the Archanes Script](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDH6KX72G8/the-first-european-writing-redefining-the-archanes-script) SRC [The Hieroglyphic Archive at Petras, Siteia](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDJ0R07P10/the-hieroglyphic-archive-at-petras-siteia) SRC [The Making of a Script: Cretan Hieroglyphic and the Quest for Its Origins](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDHAWENKAX/the-making-of-a-script-cretan-hieroglyphic-and-the-quest-for) SRC [The Relationship between Cretan Hieroglyphic and Linear A: a palaeographic and structural approach](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDHEG2K8N6/the-relationship-between-cretan-hieroglyphic-and-linear-a-a) SRC [VRY S (4/4) 01 - The First Hieroglyphic Inscription from Western Crete](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0DEDHT1BKZYM/vry-s-4-4-01-the-first-hieroglyphic-inscription-from-western) SRC Answers proposed 5 [Inscribed seals and the Archanes-formula seals](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/artifacts/ART0DEDTWZGCKGW/inscribed-seals-and-the-archanes-formula-seals) ART [The Knossos Hieroglyphic Deposit](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/artifacts/ART0DEDTJNR8TA3/the-knossos-hieroglyphic-deposit) ART [The Malia Quartier Mu hieroglyphic deposit](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/artifacts/ART0DEDT0EEHVV0/the-malia-quartier-mu-hieroglyphic-deposit) ART [The Malia altar stone and the Arkalochori axe](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/artifacts/ART0DEDV4Z7VRN4/the-malia-altar-stone-and-the-arkalochori-axe) ART [The Petras hieroglyphic archive](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/artifacts/ART0DEDT8BR3N3R/the-petras-hieroglyphic-archive) ART Evidence found 18 [A 2021 sign-by-sign review reduces CHIC's 144 signs to about 98 by merging allographs and reassigning a few signs to…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEB9B3K7HS/a-2021-sign-by-sign-review-reduces-chics-144-signs-to-about) EVD [Cretan Hieroglyphic and Linear A were used at the same time in the same palaces, on the same kinds of administrative…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAA6BZ807/cretan-hieroglyphic-and-linear-a-were-used-at-the-same-time) EVD [Davis's 2024 syllabotactic comparison finds that the shared signs combine within words in similar ways in both scripts.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAJ9XQ0KA/daviss-2024-syllabotactic-comparison-finds-that-the-shared) EVD [Decorte and Jasink and Weingarten treat the Archanes seals as a script in their own right, and the 2024 volume no…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEBB8GZV8C/decorte-and-jasink-and-weingarten-treat-the-archanes-seals) EVD [Jasink restored more than thirty seal graphs to the sign list, back towards Evans's 135-sign repertoire.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEBA83WQ2C/jasink-restored-more-than-thirty-seal-graphs-to-the-sign) EVD [Low frequencies make it impossible to chart the distribution of many seal graphs, so whether each is decorative…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEB6VYMPP3/low-frequencies-make-it-impossible-to-chart-the-distribution) EVD [Seal sequences appear to name owners or offices, and seal shape, stone and sequence correlate with the holder's status.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEB8S2KTQS/seal-sequences-appear-to-name-owners-or-offices-and-seal) EVD [The 2023 INSCRIBE study found that some motifs CHIC excluded occupy the positions and combinations of recognised signs…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEB69NE02A/the-2023-inscribe-study-found-that-some-motifs-chic-excluded) EVD [The Archanes formula recurs on the Neopalatial hieroglyphic seal KN S (4/4) 01 from the Knossos cult centre, linked…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEBCQ1RERB/the-archanes-formula-recurs-on-the-neopalatial-hieroglyphic) EVD [The Luwian reading has not been adopted by Aegean or Anatolian specialists, and its sign derivations from Egyptian are…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAQ7XSEHY/the-luwian-reading-has-not-been-adopted-by-aegean-or) EVD [The Sumerian-derived Protolinear reading rests on resemblance of sign shapes, was published outside the Aegean…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEARGZ9ZDP/the-sumerian-derived-protolinear-reading-rests-on) EVD [The Uralic reading groups scripts by computed shape similarity, which does not establish shared sound values, and its…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAT781ZWN/the-uralic-reading-groups-scripts-by-computed-shape) EVD [The clay-attestation rule excludes by construction any sign used only on seals, and has been rejected by Jasink…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEB8AP5TPT/the-clay-attestation-rule-excludes-by-construction-any-sign) EVD [The coexistence of two scripts in one administration leaves room for more than one language on Protopalatial Crete.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAVYQ4RMW/the-coexistence-of-two-scripts-in-one-administration-leaves) EVD [The corpus is about 1,500 signs in short texts, no sound value is secure and no bilingual exists.](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAV65ZMB0/the-corpus-is-about-1-500-signs-in-short-texts-no-sound) EVD [The same administrations kept the two scripts apart for two centuries, which some read as a sign of two languages or…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEAMGFAYWN/the-same-administrations-kept-the-two-scripts-apart-for-two) EVD [The scripts run side by side for most of their history rather than one replacing the other, and the Archanes seals are…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEBEMTE79N/the-scripts-run-side-by-side-for-most-of-their-history) EVD [The two scripts coexist from about 1800 BC in the same palaces and share sign shapes and some sign groups, which fits…](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/evidence/EVD0DEEBDYYJE2R/the-two-scripts-coexist-from-about-1800-bc-in-the-same) EVD Used: sources 6 [Aegean Linear Script(s): Rethinking the Relationship between Linear A and Linear B](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CQHJXK61P6J/aegean-linear-script-s-rethinking-the-relationship-between) SRC [How Not to Decipher the Phaistos Disc: A Review Article](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GFZKJ0DQG/how-not-to-decipher-the-phaistos-disc-a-review-article) SRC [Minoan Cryptanalysis: Computational Approaches to Deciphering Linear A and Assessing Its Connections with Language Families from the Mediterranean and the Black Sea Areas](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CQHJYT8078Q/minoan-cryptanalysis-computational-approaches-to-deciphering) SRC [Scripta Minoa: The Written Documents of Minoan Crete, Volume I](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D1GFYW45VW4/scripta-minoa-the-written-documents-of-minoan-crete-volume-i) SRC [The Phaistos Disk: A New Way of Viewing the Language Behind the Script](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CQHJYJE4TNT/the-phaistos-disk-a-new-way-of-viewing-the-language-behind) SRC [The mathematical values of fraction signs in the Linear A script: A computational, statistical and typological approach](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CQHJXV05G9B/the-mathematical-values-of-fraction-signs-in-the-linear-a) SRC Produced: copies 6 [Inscribed seals: DBAS-CHS database record](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/copies/CPY0DEDV0N8WAX9/inscribed-seals-dbas-chs-database-record) CPY [Photograph: Cretan Hieroglyphic](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/copies/CPY0DEDPF77R3ZJ/photograph-cretan-hieroglyphic) CPY [The Arkalochori axe: photograph](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/copies/CPY0DEDV8MC7W7C/the-arkalochori-axe-photograph) CPY [The Knossos Hieroglyphic Deposit: photo](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/copies/CPY0DEDTQBTXXQW/the-knossos-hieroglyphic-deposit-photo) CPY [The Malia Quartier Mu hieroglyphic deposit: photo](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/copies/CPY0DEDT4BZRC11/the-malia-quartier-mu-hieroglyphic-deposit-photo) CPY [The Petras hieroglyphic archive: photo](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/cretan-hieroglyphic/copies/CPY0DEDTE5Q81M0/the-petras-hieroglyphic-archive-photo) CPY ## Cite it ``` Mysteries Department. 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