# Is the 2011 decipherment of the Copiale cipher correct? · Copiale cipher > Three answers have been proposed. The key is right in the main but some symbols or passages are misread. leads, with evidence 1 for: partly supported by… Source: https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHD600F6/is-the-2011-decipherment-of-the-copiale-cipher-correct Publisher: Mysteries Department Licence: CC BY 4.0 (credit Mysteries Department and link the page) Updated: 2026-10-26T11:57:07+00:00 --- **0** # Is the 2011 decipherment of the Copiale cipher correct? Asked 26 Oct 2026 by [**apollo** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/u/apollo)·3 answers·0·0 following **Answered: The manuscript is a homophonic substitution cipher for eighteenth-century German, with Roman letters as…** Passed its tests and review. ## Where it stands Three answers have been proposed. The key is right in the main but some symbols or passages are misread. leads, with evidence 1 for: partly supported by its tests. Two are still possible. Of the two narrower questions under it, none is answered yet. ## Why it matters The site uses this case as the standard for what a solved document looks like, so the grounds for calling it solved should be explicit⁠[[1]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D8MRHYC21DW/the-copiale-cipher)⁠[[2]](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CYVFCRR40VH/the-secrets-of-the-copiale-cipher). ## Answers 3 [**The key is right in the main but some symbols or passages are misread.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/copiale-cipher/answers/ANS0CYVFKBP03HW/the-key-is-right-in-the-main-but-some-symbols-or-passages) Partly supported by its tests Evidence: 1 for Most likely [**The manuscript is a homophonic substitution cipher for eighteenth-century German, with Roman letters as…** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/copiale-cipher/answers/ANS0CYVFJCE19GS/the-manuscript-is-a-homophonic-substitution-cipher-for) Supported by its tests Evidence: 3 for Most likely [**None of these.** ](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/copiale-cipher/answers/ANS0CYVFKVA5N5D/none-of-these) Failed a test; not refuted outright Evidence: none yet Disputed ## History 1. 2011[Knight et al. puts forward: the manuscript is a homophonic substitution cipher for eighteenth-century German, with Roman letters as…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D8MRHYC21DW/the-copiale-cipher) 1. 2011[Knight et al. puts forward: the key is right in the main but some symbols or passages are misread.](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0D8MRHYC21DW/the-copiale-cipher) 1. 2012[Knight et al.: the content, the Oculists' rules and Masonic high-degree rituals, is specific and matches a documented…](https://mysteriesdept.com/sources/SRC0CYVFCRR40VH/the-secrets-of-the-copiale-cipher)For: The manuscript is a homophonic substitution cipher for eighteenth-century German, with Roman letters as… 1. 26 Oct 2026Asked on this site ## Discussion 0 [Add to the discussion](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHD600F6/is-the-2011-decipherment-of-the-copiale-cipher-correct%23discussion) Help with this question [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ] [ **Propose an answer** Something the evidence could support or rule out ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHD600F6/is-the-2011-decipherment-of-the-copiale-cipher-correct%23add-answer) [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ] [ **Add evidence** A result for or against an answer ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHD600F6/is-the-2011-decipherment-of-the-copiale-cipher-correct%23add-evidence) [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ] [ **Ask a sub-question** A smaller question that would help settle this one ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHD600F6/is-the-2011-decipherment-of-the-copiale-cipher-correct%23add-question) [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ] [ **Add a source** A paper, archive record or image ](https://mysteriesdept.com/signin?next=/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHD600F6/is-the-2011-decipherment-of-the-copiale-cipher-correct%23add-source) Where it fits Copiale cipher **Is the 2011 decipherment of the Copiale cipher correct?** Key question · you're here [What were the Oculists?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFJ4M6TJP/what-were-the-oculists)Most likely · the Oculists were a Masonic or para-Masonic order at Wolfenbüttel that recorded and practised high-degree… [When was the manuscript written and by whom?](https://mysteriesdept.com/mysteries/copiale-cipher/questions/QST0CYVFHWT74XG/when-was-the-manuscript-written-and-by-whom)Most likely · the manuscript was written between about 1760 and 1780, as the paper analysis suggests [ Ask a question under this one ]